ADA 60p Revival vers. 2018

[daworldisblack]

This is what the tank looked like a couple of years ago:



And then it spiralled into lack of maintenance and I got hit with BGA that I couldn't get rid off. Frustrated, I tore down the tank earlier last year and the tank sat dry while other priorities in life took over. I made a promise to build it up again this past holiday season. I've been splurging on hardware in the meanwhile to get myself excited for a new build.

Heres what it looks like now:



So here are some pics of the process and how it looks currently - its less than a week old and I can't wait for it all to grow in!











Hardware:
Aquaticlife Halo Light
Eheim 2213
Glass Inflow and Outflow
Hydor Inline-heater [coming in soon]
GHL Doser 2.1[Splurge]
CO2 - dual stage regulator and 10lb tank
Hydor Koralia Nano

Hardscape:
ADA Aqua Soil [Recycled]
Gnarled Manzanita Wood
Ryuoh Stone?[Not entirely sure its that]

Plants:
Dwarf Hairgrass sp. Mini
Staurogyne Repens
Monte Carlo
Hygrophilia Pinnatifida
Rotala Vietnam H'ra
African Water Fern
Some Bucephalandra Species
Cryptocoryne Parva
Blyxia Japonica [Looking for some currently]
Mystery dwarf sword [Quad.. something.. something]

Livestock TBD.

[exv152]

Nice (re)start Rah! I like the hardscape placement. Look forward to the livestock choices.

[daworldisblack]

Nice (re)start Rah! I like the hardscape placement. Look forward to the livestock choices.

Thanks! I am open to suggestions but I want to try some that I have not tried before. Some Kubotai Rasboras or maybe a school of Lampeyes. Embers are an option again as well but a maybe for now.

[charlie]

Wow , he is back!
Nice scape Rah, looking forward to the frequent updates

[Dxpert]

Looking great, awesome scape. Looking forward to the progress pics

[daworldisblack]

Good to be back!

[daworldisblack]

3 Week Update:



Some good growth coming along. A little setback with some die-off from the Staurogyne Repens and Hygrophilia Pinnatifida - but that has happened before. Staurogyne should bounce back in no time, hoping the pinnatifida stops melting.

Still in search of Blyxia Japonica! Who'd have thought - I used to throw it out before. Karma! Haha. Anyways, happy generally with the growth.

Hardware wise, in-line heater came in but haven't had the time to set it up yet. Doser also in but boy is it a PITA to set up the wi-fi part of it! More updates soon when I get more time!

[exv152]

Cool. What are those plants you got outside the tank?

[daworldisblack]

Cool. What are those plants you got outside the tank?

Those are Air Plants: https://www.hemleva.com/airplants/ - I thought they looked cool in a prehistoric dinosaur era plant way haha. They are epiphytes in the wild and do well perched like that, soaking in the evaporating water. A quick mist once in a while is good too but here they get light as well.

[lucius]

I hope you can get the hygrophilia pinnatifida going.  I've tried on three different occasions and they all melted away for some reason. 

I have one of those air plants as well but not near my fish tank.  Last time I saw them was at Rona before they turned into Lowe's.  They are neat.

[charlie]

Rah i suggest you revisit your co2 in relation to your light intensity, this may address your HP melting.

[daworldisblack]

Rah i suggest you revisit your co2 in relation to your light intensity, this may address your HP melting.

Up the co2 u mean?

[daworldisblack]

I hope you can get the hygrophilia pinnatifida going.  I've tried on three different occasions and they all melted away for some reason. 

I have one of those air plants as well but not near my fish tank.  Last time I saw them was at Rona before they turned into Lowe's.  They are neat.

Yeah in my other tank this was flourishing but not in the his one

[exv152]

If you're using the 1-2 tropica grow plants, the Hygrophilia Pinnatifida melting is most likely due to the fact that they are grown emersed, and need to shed the emersed growth before transitioning to submerged growth

[charlie]

Up the co2 u mean?

not necessarily, you could also lower the intensity if possible .
@ exv , i have been very lucky with 1 2 grow, as i have never experienced melting with it, even with crypts.

[exv152]

@ exv , i have been very lucky with 1 2 grow, as i have never experienced melting with it, even with crypts.

I have and haven't, and there are many accounts of hobbyists experiencing the melt due to the emersed to submerged transition. Crypts will melt by just moving them from one spot to another, let alone from going emersed to submerged. You've just got a green thumb

[charlie]

I have and haven't, and there are many accounts of hobbyists experiencing the melt due to the emersed to submerged transition. Crypts will melt by just moving them from one spot to another, let alone from going emersed to submerged. You've just got a green thumb

I agree with the whole crypt melt syndrome, i have experienced it just moving it in the same tank, but did not experience it with the 1 2 grow pot.

Not sure about the green thumb  ,

[exv152]

Those are Air Plants: https://www.hemleva.com/airplants/ - I thought they looked cool in a prehistoric dinosaur era plant way haha. They are epiphytes in the wild and do well perched like that, soaking in the evaporating water. A quick mist once in a while is good too but here they get light as well.

They are cool, i like epiphytes like orchids.

I will check out Rona, thanks Brian.

[aciport]

If you're using the 1-2 tropica grow plants, the Hygrophilia Pinnatifida melting is most likely due to the fact that they are grown emersed, and need to shed the emersed growth before transitioning to submerged growth

The H. pinnatifida in the 1-2-Grow are in their submersed form. All of the in-vitro plants that are grown in the liquid grow in this format. That is one of the advantages to the liquid media over the gel. I tend to get melt with HP when they are under fertilized. Check that and hopefully that plant will do well.

[exv152]

The H. pinnatifida in the 1-2-Grow are in their submersed form. All of the in-vitro plants that are grown in the liquid grow in this format.

Only the roots grow in gel. The rest of the plant is emersed.

[lucius]

They are cool, i like epiphytes like orchids.

I will check out Rona, thanks Brian.

Not sure about the Merivale location but the Rona on Innes Rd. is now a Lowes' and they no longer have greenhouse full of plants.

[aciport]

Only the roots grow in gel. The rest of the plant is emersed.

Full disclosure, I'm Kyle from Tropica North America.

In vitro plants are grown with two forms of media, a gel, which most people are familiar with, and liquid, which Tropica has been using for the majority of our plants for almost two years now. H. pinnatifida is one that is grown in the liquid media. It has been shown that with the liquid media, plants do grow in their submersed form rather than emersed as they do in gel. This has been tested by a professor at the University of Copenhagen who we work closely with.

So...yes, HP does grow in its submersed form and I will stand by my comment that there may be issues with respect to fertilization rather than transitional melt.

[charlie]

 I was waiting for Rah to chip in, I suspect the HP. in Rah's tank did not come from tropica 1-2 grow, subject to correction.

[aciport]

I was waiting for Rah to chip in, I suspect the HP. in Rah's tank did not come from tropica 1-2 grow, subject to correction.

The reference that I am trying to correct was specific to Tropica 1-2-Grow and the stated fact that the melt was caused by the plants being grown in their emersed form. It's subtle, but it does set our plants apart from other producers.

[charlie]

The reference that I am trying to correct was specific to Tropica 1-2-Grow and the stated fact that the melt was caused by the plants being grown in their emersed form. It's subtle, but it does set our plants apart from other producers.

No trouble , I understand and appreciate what you are addressing.
As I mentioned i have not experienced any melt with the 1 2 grow plants , i have used numerous species from the line.
Thanks for informing us.

[exv152]

Full disclosure, I'm Kyle from Tropica North America.

In vitro plants are grown with two forms of media, a gel, which most people are familiar with, and liquid, which Tropica has been using for the majority of our plants for almost two years now. H. pinnatifida is one that is grown in the liquid media. It has been shown that with the liquid media, plants do grow in their submersed form rather than emersed as they do in gel. This has been tested by a professor at the University of Copenhagen who we work closely with.

So...yes, HP does grow in its submersed form and I will stand by my comment that there may be issues with respect to fertilization rather than transitional melt.

I'm sorry, when you say HP has been grown in liquid media, do you mean the entire plant is submerged and grown in liquid, or do you mean only the roots have been grown in liquid media?  I know I digress but the topic is interesting as a plant grower.

[aciport]

I'm sorry, when you say HP has been grown in liquid media, do you mean the entire plant is submerged and grown in liquid, or do you mean only the roots have been grown in liquid media?  I know I digress but the topic is interesting as a plant grower.

There is about 1cm of liquid in the bottom of the cup where the culture is placed prior to sealing with the breathable top. Generally all cultures are fully submerged in the media at the time of production. Due to this and the high humidity in the cup, the plants grow in emersed form even if they are growing out of the liquid. I do not know the biological mechanisms behind this, but as I mentioned previously, this has been confirmed by the professor.

The anecdotal evidence that we do see is that there seems to be no lag in the plants growing after planting and there is minimal melt. Melt will occur simply based on plant health. If you have a very healthy plant, then it should take hold and grow immediately.

[daworldisblack]

Wow loads of buzz here! The HP was not 1-2 grow. It was growing fine in another tank. Its when I plucked out the new growth and planted them in the new tank, I noticed melting. So it could be that my balance is not right. Been dosing pretty regularly however.

I did have my Saurogyne Repens (1-2 Grow) melt on me to bare stems. Same thing has happened before in my previous build but they bounce back. Thanks for chiming in Kyle!

As for Air Plants, the RONA at hunt club seems to have them periodically, especially in the summer. I get mine from a store in Somerset called Plant and Curio. I like the wild emergent look perched on driftwood.

[exv152]

Wow loads of buzz here! The HP was not 1-2 grow. It was growing fine in another tank. Its when I plucked out the new growth and planted them in the new tank, I noticed melting. So it could be that my balance is not right. Been dosing pretty regularly however.

I did have my Saurogyne Repens melt on me to bare stems. Same thing has happened before in my previous build but they bounce back. Thanks for chiming in Kyle!

As for Air Plants, the RONA at hunt club seems to have them periodically, especially in the summer. I get mine from a store in Somerset called Plant and Curio. I like the wild emergent look perched on driftwood.

I'm going to give HP and S.Repens 1-2 grow a shot in my 125g. I miss having those. I'm also going to give the air plants a go, thanks for the tip!

[daworldisblack]

I'm going to give HP and S.Repens 1-2 grow a shot in my 125g. I miss having those. I'm also going to give the air plants a go, thanks for the tip!

Lets see an update of that tank!

[daworldisblack]

Alas, tore this tank down - look for it in ads soon. So much dreams, so much aspirations but life got in the way. Last pic of it in its 'glory' before it overgrew and ultimately came to its own demise.



Follow New build here: http://ovas.ca/forum/index.php?topic=61849.msg343954#msg343954

[charlie]

Any consideration to doing a simple low light  tank with undemanding plants?

[daworldisblack]

Any consideration to doing a simple low light  tank with undemanding plants?

I think right now I'm onboard with med light system but smaller water body so water changes and top ups are faster and less plants so keeping on top of trimmings isn't too much of a hassle. Low light will def solve the latter but not the easier water changes and top-ups. One day I'll have a bigger tank like your 80G that will make it up for it all