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correlation of BBA & Organics

Started by charlie, January 10, 2009, 05:06:17 PM

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charlie

There is speculation that another cause of BBA other than low  CO2 levels, is high organics.A number of hobbyist are speculating that they have noticed a correlation of high organics as a result of feeding live food , frozen blood worms, brine shrimp etc. , this has not been proven but the coincidence is alarming , since they all report to have been on top of everything else including co2 levels.
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fischkopp

This is an interesting thought. I noticed quite a build-up in organic matter in some of my tanks - even  when I try to vacuum most of it out during the water change. Feeding definitively includes protein rich foods. And I tend to have a bit of BBA showing up here and there ... I was going to address this with bigger filtration in the future.

Thanks for this info! :)
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KLKelly

My well water I speculate is high in organics.

I have been fighting BBA from the beginning.  My ph rises from 7.6 to 8.3 because aerate it before water changes. Not sure if this makes it low in CO2.

Anyways I gave up - I can't even have plants because the thought of adding CO2 and something going wrong scares me.  I let it grow crazy on the back wall and razor the front and sides.

Questions about BBA - someone mentioned that BBA might be toxic and thats why fish don't eat it (like siamese algae eaters).  Is there any benefit of this at all - it sure doesn't help in my tanks I dont think?

dan2x38

I think they mean BGA is toxic.

A school of thought leans towards high pH preventing BBA or majorally reducing BBA. I was reading a lot on the topic and the author was saying you don't see BBA in an African Chichlid tank? Is the pH level also a BBA control?
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Jeff1192

That wouldn't surprise me at all. While I pretty much solved my earlier BBA from when I started up my CO2 (we won't talk about my hair algae problem  :)) I do still get the odd spot here and there on the glass. I also feed frozen blood worm regularily and frozen brine shrimp once in a while. I'm also bad for over-feeding so this could explain the odd spots of BBA that I get. Interesting theory.

Jeff
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dan2x38

I read one contributing factor to hair algae is to much iron.
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Jeff1192

Yeah that's what I'm working on adjusting now......slowly bringing it down but not too fast that I stop growth
17 Gallon Seapora Crystal:: Cherry shrimp and red crystal shrimp

90 Gallon:: p. acei itunji, p. elongatus chewere, p. Saulosi, cyno zebroides jalo reef

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"
                        - George Orwell

dan2x38

Quote from: Jeff1192 on January 11, 2009, 05:17:40 PM
Yeah that's what I'm working on adjusting now......slowly bringing it down but not too fast that I stop growth

hard to find the balance for each tank but when you do it's all good.
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