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A. undulatus, plant contest, put all questions,comments, pictures in here

Started by kennyman, September 27, 2007, 06:39:23 PM

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kennyman

Ahhh the lovely pale green tinged with brown. Did I cook my specimen by leaving it in the bag overnight or does this plant look a paler yellow/green in your tank too?

It will be interesting to see how it does in a Walstad type tank. The literature on the plant seems to suggest it will do fine, but we shall see  ;)

How much light is yours under babble or is that a "dont ask because if I told you I'd have to kill you" question  :D

babblefish1960

Quote from: kennyman on September 27, 2007, 06:39:23 PM
How much light is yours under babble or is that a "dont ask because if I told you I'd have to kill you" question  :D
It is a tricky question indeed, I can't tell you as it is now under guard by the killer cats tending to it. ;)

Quote from: sas on September 27, 2007, 06:46:55 PM
lol kennyman, I was thinking the same pale and off color ::), almost like a Canadian showing up in Florida in March. Very ruff ruff ;), sorry Babble for the lack of grammer :)

Oooh! My sensibilities have been struck a brutal blow, I shall let this one pass sassafras, but wow, that is worse than most of my sentences. :D

I think the joy of the contest is in the discovering how many actually survived more than thrived.  The month of May should be quite telling. :)

normc

The original leaves in my tank look pale but the new leaves it is putting out are darker. ;D

succinctfish

I just planted mine.  :)  It's been floating in the tank since the meeting.  Already there is a blasted pond snail crawling on it.  ::) It's in my tank plagued with filamentous algae and tenanted by Genghis, my flagtail porthole catfish and his flagtail corydoras gang, so we'll see how it survives.  I'm sure I'll be planting it again tomorrow after Genghis digs it up tonight.


Babble's is under natural light at the moment...in the bag...still in the car.  ;D 

dan2x38

Mine is doing OK to date... had to prune a couple leaves & roots... it stayed in the bag for 2 days... colour seems fine too...

Latios has his in a 10 gallon, his WMM tank. His has a leave dieing off no real colour yet. Tonight I showed him how to insert a Flourish Tab. He added some leaf Zone too. He's learning about macro & micro nutrients... he does surprise me how quickly he's learning... I pass on what takes me hours, days, or even weeks and he absurbs it in minutes...  :o
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kennyman

Quote from: dan2x38 on September 28, 2007, 10:41:50 PM
Mine is doing OK to date... had to prune a couple leaves & roots... it stayed in the bag for 2 days... colour seems fine too...


You guys had roots?  ???  :P

It is amazing how fast this thing is putting out new leaves! I guess the stored carbs in the bulb will get them all going after transport and whatnot. Very cool plant all in all.

Nerine

mine is in my 75 with java moss...no fish

most of the leaves are dead, I need to lop them off. but a few new dark green ones are poking through! whew! I was worried it was totally dead!!! it wasn't doing well when I got it, so hoping it will spring back and flourish!
55 Gallon: Zamora Woodcats, Gold Gourami, Severum, Convicts
Misc tanks: Glo Light Tetras, Harlequin Tetras, Danios, Platies, Guppies, Otto cats
Breeding: Platies, Guppies, Convicts

Kats

Mine is in the 46G and it is the weirdest thing I have ever owned (well OK, I've never, until 2 weeks ago, owned water plants but....) it has this huge long stem that has grown out of the middle of it and it is now almost 2feet high...  Is that normal?

Here is a pic

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BigDaddy

That is the way the plant propagates.  It will eventually create other plants.  Keep them and bring them in at year end... more plants means you did a good job growing it!

Kats

Hey... that thing grows and grows but there are no new plant, I swear, the stem is almost as long as my tank now and it has a little tip with some sort of buds on it...  What a weird plant!  :D

How does it propagate?  Should I expect it to drop it's little buds all over the tank or do I have to do something to it?

washefuzzy

My plant is in a 10 gal with a 1/4" of gravel. But it seems to be surviving and getting longer than my tank is tall. The tank is erupting with endlers who I guess are doing a good job at fertilizing the the plant.  :)

BigDaddy

Okay well... turns out the plant is NOT A. undulatus.  I have, and other members also have, flowering stalks coming off the plant.  Given that Kasselmann says that inflorescence are rare, we can pretty much loose the label of A. undulatus.

The plant definitely looks to be a cross of A. crispus (of which there are many).  I am guessing from the growth of mine that it could be crispus x rigidifolius based on some pics I have of flowers of that cross.  I could very easily be totally off though :)

Aquaviewer

Quote from: BigDaddy on October 30, 2007, 10:30:44 AM
Okay well... turns out the plant is NOT A. undulatus.  I have, and other members also have, flowering stalks coming off the plant.  Given that Kasselmann says that inflorescence are rare, we can pretty much loose the label of A. undulatus.

The plant definitely looks to be a cross of A. crispus (of which there are many).  I am guessing from the growth of mine that it could be crispus x rigidifolius based on some pics I have of flowers of that cross.  I could very easily be totally off though :)

Hmmm, interesting.  I was wondering about that as I've been watching the flower stock extend about 4 feet.  Nice flower though.  I'm still working on getting a better exposure, but here is a shot of mine.



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Rainbows, plecos, corydoras, killifish, Apistogramma

Nerine

55 Gallon: Zamora Woodcats, Gold Gourami, Severum, Convicts
Misc tanks: Glo Light Tetras, Harlequin Tetras, Danios, Platies, Guppies, Otto cats
Breeding: Platies, Guppies, Convicts

dan2x38

I've been looking around and online have seen several sites showing A. undulatus with the flowering crawler. Here is at least one link for Aponogeton undulatus. The discription says it has those runners.

Here is another link saying it sends out these flowering runners. It also says it does reach a dorminate stage.

http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod/198772/product.web?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=198772
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jetstream

According to Karen, the reason Apon. send out flowering runners is either under stress or coming out from dorminate stage. She mentioned that when she saw my other Apon plant's flower.

dan2x38

Mine has darker leaves than Latios' mind you his is a 10g no CO2 a little ferts once a week. I also have no runners on mine he does. The leaves are almost 2' long on  mine. I see no real sign of a runner yet. Does look like another leave or 2 are coming out.
Voltaire:
"I may not agree with what you have to say,
but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

BigDaddy

Quote from: dan2x38 on October 30, 2007, 08:39:59 PM
I've been looking around and online have seen several sites showing A. undulatus with the flowering crawler. Here is at least one link for Aponogeton undulatus. The discription says it has those runners.

Here is another link saying it sends out these flowering runners. It also says it does reach a dorminate stage.

http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod/198772/product.web?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=198772

I don't really give a lot of credence to online stores descriptions.

Karen Randall and Christel Kasselmann hold much more weight with me, and both of them specifically mention how A. undulatus propagates vegetatively through adventitious plantlets.

I know have three stalks on this plant, and none of them have any plantlets, only a spike that flowers when it reaches air.

dan2x38

So what about the contest? Mine seems different no flowering runners going to the top.
Voltaire:
"I may not agree with what you have to say,
but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

Nerine

Mine is only about 3 inches tall :)
but it's doing well!! I forgot to post pics! oops
55 Gallon: Zamora Woodcats, Gold Gourami, Severum, Convicts
Misc tanks: Glo Light Tetras, Harlequin Tetras, Danios, Platies, Guppies, Otto cats
Breeding: Platies, Guppies, Convicts