How about a web team? Instead...

[dan2x38]

OK another exec. member has announced their being unable to fulfill their term and part of it due it the website influence. OK like asked in a couple other threads Please keep this respectful and non-attacive. This is meant to offer help not critize in any regard!

Several exec. members have voiced issues with the website and the club meetings being the focal point not this forum. So why not lift the responsibility from their shoulders so they can handle all other club business? Let's face it an Internet presence should be maintained and maybe even stepped up - this is the 21st century after all and the Information Age.

How about a web team be added responsible to the club and exec of course. They have no voting in exec. meetings and in fact do not even attend those meetings. There would be a webmaster still but the web team would handle the moderation and help the web master when needed. Maybe links to FaceBook & Twitter maintained by such a team? Like I said this would take the pressure of maintaining a website off of the execs. plate period. Mods and the team would be screened of course!

Like I said please keep this a positive thread and see it in it's intended light!!!

[JetJumper]

I completely agree and said I could help moderate in another post on here a while ago.  I am usually on the site often and I have used this forum system before in an administrative mode.

[Jeff1192]

I don't have a ton of free time these days but I would definitely be willing to help with moderation if the club ever decided to go this route bi think it's a great idea.

Jeff

[Darth]

great idea +1

[Hookup]

I think there is a diff between moderation and website admin.

Moderation is likely something that many people can help with.  Heck if the sponsors can moderate anyone can learn to... Hahah. (joking, just joking)


Website admin is likely a special skill, more technically oriented.

A team of web admins might work.  Multiple moderators is a common idea on forums...  Not sure this is what Dan was suggesting, but a good thing none the less.

[dan2x38]

I think it could be both Mods and admins. Yes admin is more techy for sure but it is as easy as saying using Word in some parts. The backend stuff is complicated and that would need to remain in one person's hands. Rights and permissions can be added and substracted for a single user or a grou. But there could be another admin or even admins especially for say the dreaded Classifieds section. Or a salty for SW, freshwater hobbyist for FW & plant guru for Plants section. Then have Mods for certain sections - maybe or just a group that moderates the entire site instead of seperate boards.

Either way there is potential in lighting the load and relieving the stress of daily operation of this website by giving others tasks to accomplish. If things have been tried in the past it is never a good reason not to try it again if it failed - the approach or timing may have been wrong. The same as it's always been done this way is never a good reason to continue doing something that way without trying or considering new approaches. Times change and so do the demands on task/s at hand.

Currently execs. are responsible for all moderation. This ties them up plus during meetings ties up time related to the forum. A web team would never have to even meet. The FlashChat can be used to meet. Rooms can be made in there password protected and only users assigned could access the webteam room. In that way a real time meeting could take place. Then tasks would dooled out via email. Finally the ever popular phone could be used when more direct contact is required.

Over all this is very doable and how most websites are run especially large ones. I worked in the field and I did not do it all myself it would be to much. There would never be time for anything else if it wasn't segmented.

[robt18]

It could work but let me say...

Over-moderation is a bad thing. Having a bunch of people all being able to change things or have powers on a website leads to even more conflict.
Also, if there are 5 or 6 mods on this site it typically turns into a little club that is segmented from the larger group. It also becomes much harder to make a decision on controversial topics.

Instead of doing chat, it would probably be a lot easier to make a private subforum that can only be viewed by mods& admin.

If the site does go the mod route, the idea of having one person per subforum really wouldn't work, because there typically are no real problems in each individual section, and if there was and the appropriate pperson was online. the others would have no power to help and the problem would not be solved. I may turn into an 'on-call' style obligation.

If the site does choose to create a moderation team, I would suggest 2 global moderators to assist Peter and the executive. That way they could monitor the entire site, resolve any issues rather quickly, and the control would be in a few good hands.

Rob

[Fishnut]

I'm sure IF the execs decide to have a moderation team that extends beyond the execs, they will be choosing VERY carefully. 

There are people who I feel should NEVER be in the position to alter this website.

[Brine]

One of the first things that lead to where we are today was the inconsistency of the moderation we had. Some people have issues with other members and aren't able to remain objective. This led to people being censored as opposed to moderated.

[mseguin]

Like any other exec position, the webmaster can establish a webteam, same as the program director can establish a team to help ferry speakers, help at meetings, etc. I will leave it to the current webmaster to discuss it further. However, the website still falls under the jurisdiction of the executive. So other than moderation, the exec still has to deal with whatever drama comes up as well. Not saying I'm against the idea of a webteam, just that we're dealing with 2 separate issues at hand.

[Hookup]

I'm sure IF the execs decide to have a moderation team that extends beyond the execs, they will be choosing VERY carefully. 

There are people who I feel should NEVER be in the position to alter this website.

I 100% AGREE!   



And most other forums have mods for each sub forum.. Most being the three others I'm using from time to time.  This one is the only one that doesn't...

Anyhow, more moderation is not often a path to greener grass...

[holachicka]

There are people who I feel should NEVER be in the position to alter this website.

I totally agree - it is a good thing the exec would be the ones to chose and not everyone else!

I think that this mod idea is great and would hope that it will not turn into, as Robt18 said, over-moderating!

[dan2x38]

By no means would I suggest censorship by mod. rule... or similar. A team would likely be small. As Rob points out the access to other boards could be an issue. Mods woul dhave to be able to act quickly to deal with things adhoc. Of course selection would need to be done carefully. But it shouldn't end up as a good old boys club of favorates or buddies this would create issues. The idea is lift pressure of daily website duties off of the shoulders of the exec.

[TLe041]

...selection would need to be done carefully...it shouldn't end up as a good old boys club of favorites or buddies...

If this idea were to come to fruition, this is exactly what's going to happen.

Great idea Dan, but unfortunately, as history has indicated, the current execs don't take others' suggestions very seriously. With most of the same faces returning next year, this isn't likely going to change.

[Fishnut]

That was un-called for. How do you know ideas arenakt taken seriously? When was the last time you attended an exec meeting?

I believe you deserve to be slapped with a fish now.

[Hookup]

LOL!!!!


I'm going to my fish tank to grab a wrasse... That did not diserve a slap with a tang, but close!

[garnpet]

I long ago decided that there will be a group of moderators for the forum - it is just simply too much effort and time for one person to do it.

I've been on vacation for the past 4 weeks (little internet, no phone, no TV, no OVAS).  I will be posting details and asking for volunteers when I get home later this week.

[mseguin]

If this idea were to come to fruition, this is exactly what's going to happen.

Great idea Dan, but unfortunately, as history has indicated, the current execs don't take others' suggestions very seriously. With most of the same faces returning next year, this isn't likely going to change.

With an attitude like that, you're lucky any of them are returning.

[dan2x38]

Remember folks lets keepit clean, respectful and no finger pointing. This is how threads deteriorate and get locked or deleted. The whole idea is to give positive feedback for a successful OVAS exec. this upcoming season. Rehashing the past or being over critical will only spark another runaway negative thread. 

[markw]

If this idea were to come to fruition, this is exactly what's going to happen.

Great idea Dan, but unfortunately, as history has indicated, the current execs don't take others' suggestions very seriously. With most of the same faces returning next year, this isn't likely going to change.

People like this and their insane comments are exactly why I had to quit the Exec!